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By: Romer!can

Romer!can — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:23:10 +0000

Y’know, now that I think of it, maybe the opposite direction would work: send away our own politicians, scatter them to other countries a few in each place…

No, thank you!

By: Narc

Narc — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:01:12 +0000

Y’know, now that I think of it, maybe the opposite direction would work: send away our own politicians, scatter them to other countries a few in each place (so they couldn’t work together to mess things up), and force them to deal with a system which would properly criminalize them for screwing things up. I figure if we do this a few times, we will eventually have a number of politicians who have been de-conditioned of the constant graft and corruption that run so rampant in Romanian politics. Then, toss them all back here and see what happens.

Ideally, a combination of the two approaches — this one and the imported politicians — might work, and if advertised properly might even be palatable to the great unwashed Romanian masses. Thoughts?

By: Narc

Narc — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:18:26 +0000

@bunissima — “Romanians [...] would all freak out [...] if they were told French or British are better politicians than us[...]” — I don’t necessarily believe that’s true, because I’m not convinced good politicians really exist. On the other hand, what French or British (or German, or Finnish) politicians would have is a history in a much less corrupt system, so (one would hope) they would try to fix ours on the one hand, and identify Romanian think-alikes on the other, both of which even in small doses would help tremendously (IMNSHO).

Of course, if such a thing ever came to pass, the majority of the Romanian population very likely *would* take it that way, especially with the help of the current crop of assholes who don’t really want to see their power being lost.

As I said, as good for the country as it would be, it’s never going to happen.

@Bogdan — “Apparently, incompetence and corruption are not enough to get you fired from a job in the administration.” — Oh, but they did, just not for a very long time. And it took even more incompetence and corruption (of the judicial system, in this case) to get him back where he was. Lovely how we, the taxpayers, get to pay for it all, too.

By: bunissima

bunissima — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:37:49 +0000

@Bogdan: I definitely agree with you about the system of values, and inherently about the influence of the church, and I think that to this day it continues to be a bad influence on people because it keeps them in that sweet close-minded and obtuse slumber, where they feel safe.

Since we now have those laws, even though later than it should have been, it’s still amazing how there still are a lot of bigots, homophobic, and racist people in Romania (even though Romanians do not connect their hatred of gypsies to racism, but they do know that it means hating blacks). But then, these kinds of people are everywhere, even in US. Here the cause is a mix of political games and religious indoctrination, which makes people judge anything as being either black or white because they think those are the only options. They mistake the principles of a certain party with their own principles and ideas just because they *have* to take sides. Which makes them in turn vulnerable to the reality and addicted to the continuous lies they keep swallowing. So, while situations might be different in US and RO, the culprit is the same: the supremacy of the few over the entire population. And for some reason there are not enough convincing voices out there to help people open their eyes. I do not know how this is done.

By: Bogdan

Bogdan — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:31:51 +0000

@bunissima: the main problem is that we want the riches of the West without wanting its system of values, its civilization.

There are a lot of people who oppose the Western system of value as something foreign. The church had a great conservative influence and strongly opposed each of these reforms:

Romania was the last country in Europe to abolish slavery. (1856)

Romania was the last country in Europe to disallow non-Christians to become citizens. (until 1879)

Romania was the last country in Europe to give citizenship to its Jewish inhabitants. (1923)

Romania was the last country in Europe to legalize homosexuality. (2001)

By: bunissima

bunissima — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:11:57 +0000

@Narc: It’s interesting for me to see that more people think an unusual solution like this would be an answer. I had been thinking about something more vague in that direction you mentioned, getting some form of government or politicians that we “import,” because we just do not have the principles to do it ourselves. But Romanians have an inferiority complex and they would all freak out in bursts of nationalism and dramatic pride, if they were told French or British are better politicians than us, even if the truth is obvious. Hell, they once freaked out when they were told in the news that the British use more soap than us (of course the British are stinky, dirty and uneducated). But then, we can never speak for an entire nation, and a small sample is not necessarily relevant.

Of course, we all need to keep some sort of optimism, for reasons of sanity, and at least try to see the good part of things.

I am not sure when it will happen, most likely not our lifetimes, but someday there will be a new system, a fair system that will represent and do justice to all the people, based on learning from the mistakes of the past (like communism) and of the the present and on the people’s intellectual evolution.

By: Romer!can

Romer!can — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:45:00 +0000

Cristina – To be sure, I’m using the piece for the effect for which it was created. As for Johannis, it would be a silver-lining should PSD carry the day… though one might temper any enthusiasm to be more cautiously optimistic in view of the higher stakes national game.

By: Cristina

Cristina — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:48:01 +0000

The ad is a joke, there are few clues and the line with “abonament la spa… ” says: “spa subscription including relaxing massage and 4 weekly brain washing sessions”.
Regarding the communist party, I will personally vote for it to have the German prime-minster, he did a excellent job in the 8 years as mayor for Sibiu.

Welcome back!

By: Bogdan

Bogdan — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:50:55 +0000

@Narc: I don’t know about Cluj, but Sibiu looks great now, too. Personally, I love Braşov more than Sibiu and I wish Braşov had a better administration, like Sibiu.

Bucharest has some serious city planning issues. They city planners are the most corrupt in the whole local administration because there’s a lot of money involved.

Here’s a fun fact: Adrian Bold, the Chief City Architect is the one responsible for the general ugliness and lack of any planning of Bucharest. He served under four mayors, two of PNT-CD (Ciorbea, Lis) and two of PDL (Băsescu, Videanu).

He was also involved in various shady deals after which the City Hall was sued and had to pay reparations for his decisions.

Anyway, Oprescu, the new mayor, fired him for incompetence, because his bad decisions lead to the City Hall having to pay large sums of money in the trials the city lost.

Of course, the Real Estate Mafiosi couldn’t accept that and Bold had to boldly fight back: he sued the City Hall and he got the job back! Apparently, incompetence and corruption are not enough to get you fired from a job in the administration.