Comments on: Marketing Romanian wine (Part II) http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/ Dispatches from an American in Romania (was Transylvania) Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Danette Schilke http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-159964 Danette Schilke Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:11:57 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-159964 jo cikk. jo cikk.

]]> By: nicu http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-108611 nicu Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:32:54 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-108611 A big LOL for me reading in the linked article "Romanians are the undisputed kings when it comes to annual production and consumption of the drink at over 450,000 hectoliters or 40% of the total alcohol intake" ...no doubt about the consumption part :D A big LOL for me reading in the linked article “Romanians are the undisputed kings when it comes to annual production and consumption of the drink at over 450,000 hectoliters or 40% of the total alcohol intake” …no doubt about the consumption part :D

]]> By: Romer!can http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-108319 Romer!can Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:07:06 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-108319 Interesting difference. I had read the Wikipedia entry just after your previous comment the other day. And edited said entry to include mention of production in Romania, since it is produced here -- EU or not. However, your observation of the difference between English and Romana versions is quite interesting. I typically look at English, not just because of language preference (though it exists) so much as content depth because the Romanian version of articles tend to have very little information even about Romanian entries which has always surprised me. So, I did a little searching. BBC reported in 2002 that Hungary did get an exclusive EU protection. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2563625.stm According to a piece at Cornell University, the EU reversed course and gave permission for Austria to produce palinca (as they claim to have invented it, no matter who makes it). http://courses.cit.cornell.edu/his452/Andrei/ContestedFoodinPostnationalist%20Europe/ContestedCuisine.html If you follow the academic citations there, it seems Romania does have permission to use the name "Palinca" but possibly only because Hungary has graciously opted to not pursue sanctions against Romania. According to that summary. At the moment, I cannot find further notation either way. Interesting difference. I had read the Wikipedia entry just after your previous comment the other day. And edited said entry to include mention of production in Romania, since it is produced here — EU or not. However, your observation of the difference between English and Romana versions is quite interesting. I typically look at English, not just because of language preference (though it exists) so much as content depth because the Romanian version of articles tend to have very little information even about Romanian entries which has always surprised me.

So, I did a little searching.

BBC reported in 2002 that Hungary did get an exclusive EU protection.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2563625.stm

According to a piece at Cornell University, the EU reversed course and gave permission for Austria to produce palinca (as they claim to have invented it, no matter who makes it).
http://courses.cit.cornell.edu/his452/Andrei/ContestedFoodinPostnationalist%20Europe/ContestedCuisine.html

If you follow the academic citations there, it seems Romania does have permission to use the name “Palinca” but possibly only because Hungary has graciously opted to not pursue sanctions against Romania. According to that summary. At the moment, I cannot find further notation either way.

]]> By: nicu http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-108264 nicu Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:11:16 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-108264 Quote from the international <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palinka" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>: The production of palinka in the European Union is regulated by order 1-3-1576/89, which took effect on 1 July 2002. According to the regulation, an alcoholic beverage may be called palinka in the EU only if: * 1. it is made 100-percent from fruits or herbs indigenous to the Carpathian Basin and grown in Hungary, or from pomace grown in Hungary, and does not contain any additives, * 2. it is produced and bottled in Hungary, * 3. its alcohol content is between 42% and 86% ABV. The Romanian <a href="http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%83linc%C4%83" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a> comes with something different: În 2002, Ungaria a solicitat Uniunii Europene înregistrarea mărcii Palinka ca băutură naţională, astfel putând să fie produsă exclusiv în Ungaria, dar această cerere a fost respinsă. I don't know who is right on that... Quote from the international Wikipedia:

The production of palinka in the European Union is regulated by order 1-3-1576/89, which took effect on 1 July 2002. According to the regulation, an alcoholic beverage may be called palinka in the EU only if:

* 1. it is made 100-percent from fruits or herbs indigenous to the Carpathian Basin and grown in Hungary, or from pomace grown in Hungary, and does not contain any additives,

* 2. it is produced and bottled in Hungary,

* 3. its alcohol content is between 42% and 86% ABV.

The Romanian Wikipedia comes with something different:

În 2002, Ungaria a solicitat Uniunii Europene înregistrarea mărcii Palinka ca băutură naţională, astfel putând să fie produsă exclusiv în Ungaria, dar această cerere a fost respinsă.

I don’t know who is right on that…

]]> By: Mary http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-107972 Mary Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:39:26 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-107972 I have discovered your blog today and I liked it. It's always interesting to see Romania (I am Romanian) trough the foreigners' eyes. Regarding the Romanian wine, if you want to know more I can give you the contact of a very talented and passionate wine connoisseur. If you drop me an email, I will answer :). I have discovered your blog today and I liked it. It’s always interesting to see Romania (I am Romanian) trough the foreigners’ eyes.

Regarding the Romanian wine, if you want to know more I can give you the contact of a very talented and passionate wine connoisseur. If you drop me an email, I will answer :).

]]> By: Romer!can http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-107794 Romer!can Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:40:43 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-107794 Say, that is a VERY interesting revelation. Thank you for drawing my attention to this registration business. I'll have to read more about it as it seems rather scandalous at first blush. Granted, I've known both Hungarians and Romanians lay claim to palinka and palinca. And since I was not around in the 11th century to see which culture first learned to make the exact drink after borrowing ideas from yet some other culture, I couldn't say with certainty who is right. At this point, it doesn't seem to matter. Hence, my surprise at some EU registration which would prevent Romania from producing it. I do, afterall, still see it sold in stores across town (G'Market comes to mind, most recently). I'll go learn more about the situation. Thanks! Say, that is a VERY interesting revelation. Thank you for drawing my attention to this registration business. I’ll have to read more about it as it seems rather scandalous at first blush.

Granted, I’ve known both Hungarians and Romanians lay claim to palinka and palinca. And since I was not around in the 11th century to see which culture first learned to make the exact drink after borrowing ideas from yet some other culture, I couldn’t say with certainty who is right. At this point, it doesn’t seem to matter. Hence, my surprise at some EU registration which would prevent Romania from producing it. I do, afterall, still see it sold in stores across town (G’Market comes to mind, most recently).

I’ll go learn more about the situation. Thanks!

]]> By: nicu http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-107756 nicu Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:15:19 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-107756 Well, technically Palinca is a Hungarian drink, they registered the name so you are not allowed to produce "palinca" in Romania... see as an example (don't know if there is still sold) "Tărie de Bihor", it used to be called "Palincă de Bihor" but had to change the name. Well, technically Palinca is a Hungarian drink, they registered the name so you are not allowed to produce “palinca” in Romania… see as an example (don’t know if there is still sold) “Tărie de Bihor”, it used to be called “Palincă de Bihor” but had to change the name.

]]> By: Romer!can http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-104153 Romer!can Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:28:49 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-104153 Hey, man, drop me an email once you're in-country and know your schedule for being in Bucureşti. If you're here for a night or two, we'll hook up for dinner some place. It'll be nice to catch up a little. Hey, man, drop me an email once you’re in-country and know your schedule for being in Bucureşti. If you’re here for a night or two, we’ll hook up for dinner some place. It’ll be nice to catch up a little.

]]> By: Ron & Maria http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-103917 Ron & Maria Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:33:40 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-103917 it's a cross between feteasca & muscat...sweet with a bit of a dry finish...almost too easy to drink in large quantities with some mici on a hot summer day. Maria's grandmother made 200 litres of tuica last yr. Their talents are diverse with the home brews. The cognac maria's dad started in the spring should be just right when we get there. Ahhh...can't wait till January...plus one american within Romanian borders for another 3 weeks...wooohooo! it’s a cross between feteasca & muscat…sweet with a bit of a dry finish…almost too easy to drink in large quantities with some mici on a hot summer day. Maria’s grandmother made 200 litres of tuica last yr. Their talents are diverse with the home brews. The cognac maria’s dad started in the spring should be just right when we get there.

Ahhh…can’t wait till January…plus one american within Romanian borders for another 3 weeks…wooohooo!

]]> By: Laura http://romerican.com/2008/12/21/marketing-romanian-wine-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-103609 Laura Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:41:24 +0000 http://romerican.com/?p=626#comment-103609 hehe, give the men a chance, we are trying, whatever works is fine. At least we can use an "icon" (such as Dracula) to actually sell something totally different, that has nothing to do with Bram Stoker or Bran castle. So, I would call it luck, if you can sell shoes by saying they have something to do with one's momma. hehe, give the men a chance, we are trying, whatever works is fine. At least we can use an “icon” (such as Dracula) to actually sell something totally different, that has nothing to do with Bram Stoker or Bran castle.

So, I would call it luck, if you can sell shoes by saying they have something to do with one’s momma.

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