Comments on: Last Call! http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/ Dispatches from an American in Romania (was Transylvania) Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:14:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Romer!can - Dispatches from an American in Transylvania http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-1251 Romer!can - Dispatches from an American in Transylvania Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:57:02 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-1251 [...] The very first person to respond to my cry for help was a silently lurking reader stationed in Targu Mureş, through no fault of his own. He had promised to ship a quantity of regional swill to this guinea pig in good time. A quick back and forth of electronic mail revealed he was much wittier than your average bear. [...] [...] The very first person to respond to my cry for help was a silently lurking reader stationed in Targu Mureş, through no fault of his own. He had promised to ship a quantity of regional swill to this guinea pig in good time. A quick back and forth of electronic mail revealed he was much wittier than your average bear. [...]

]]> By: Romerican http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-800 Romerican Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:56:26 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-800 And, by that, I mean the band... bah! Bah! You can tell me about it next time. And, by that, I mean the band… bah! Bah! You can tell me about it next time.

]]> By: Romerican http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-799 Romerican Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:55:09 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-799 da, da.... but pronunciation!! da, da…. but pronunciation!!

]]> By: sarmale inc. http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-798 sarmale inc. Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:21:58 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-798 SINGULAR --- sarma - unarticulated o sarma - articulated (undefinite article) sarmaua - articulated (definite article) PLURAL --- sarmale - unarticulated niste sarmale - articulated (undefinite article) sarmalele - articulated (definite article) --- r++ SINGULAR
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sarma - unarticulated

o sarma - articulated (undefinite article)

sarmaua - articulated (definite article)

PLURAL
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sarmale - unarticulated

niste sarmale - articulated (undefinite article)

sarmalele - articulated (definite article)

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]]> By: Romerican http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-645 Romerican Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:47:08 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-645 Well, now, how I can argue with you? I <em>know</em> you know your own language as well as anyone possibly could. Which puts me in a corner. All I can say is that I've enjoyed Sarmalele Reci for 2 years... and <strong>every</strong> time I pronounce the name Sarma-LAY-lay, then <strong>every</strong> Romanian I've ever known as a passing acquaintence, long term friend, or otherwise significantly been involved with has <strong>always</strong> gotten very confused to the point of not understanding what I was talking about. Only when pronounced as SarMA-lay, did they stop laughing at my (continuously) ridiculous attempts to massacre the language. I asked a couple folks today and they said you should be right, but you're wrong. So, what kind of hornet's next I have stirred up? It's not a regional thing, is it? Some strange thing that only has to do with this band? I don't get it. And it's been two years. Just when I thought I was sure I finally got it, you come along and knock over my canoe. You can bet I'll become obsessed with this again, asking everyone I know all over from the start... Well, now, how I can argue with you? I know you know your own language as well as anyone possibly could. Which puts me in a corner.

All I can say is that I’ve enjoyed Sarmalele Reci for 2 years… and every time I pronounce the name Sarma-LAY-lay, then every Romanian I’ve ever known as a passing acquaintence, long term friend, or otherwise significantly been involved with has always gotten very confused to the point of not understanding what I was talking about. Only when pronounced as SarMA-lay, did they stop laughing at my (continuously) ridiculous attempts to massacre the language.

I asked a couple folks today and they said you should be right, but you’re wrong. So, what kind of hornet’s next I have stirred up? It’s not a regional thing, is it? Some strange thing that only has to do with this band? I don’t get it. And it’s been two years.

Just when I thought I was sure I finally got it, you come along and knock over my canoe. You can bet I’ll become obsessed with this again, asking everyone I know all over from the start…

]]> By: Cristian http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-644 Cristian Sun, 04 Jun 2006 05:29:22 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-644 ROmerican, I beg to difer. We are a nation that doesn't use extra letter unless we plan to use them. So yes, it doesn come out as sarma-lay-lay. The puzzled looks are further proof that sometimes we tack on too many thinkg to the end of a word. ROmerican, I beg to difer. We are a nation that doesn’t use extra letter unless we plan to use them. So yes, it doesn come out as sarma-lay-lay. The puzzled looks are further proof that sometimes we tack on too many thinkg to the end of a word.

]]> By: Roy http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-641 Roy Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:34:53 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-641 Shocking! -<b>ro27j8no</b> Shocking! -ro27j8no

]]> By: Romerican http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-640 Romerican Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:04:26 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-640 Thanks, Iefty. Ask your friend how to pronounce the name of the band "Sarmalele Reci" and he will never say "sarma-lay-lay" ...but will always say "sarma-lay" even if it is <em>supposed</em> to be sarmalele.  I guarantee it. This one bothered me for two years, because I would say "Sarmalele Reci" ...only to get strange faces from the native Romanians asking me, "Who? What did you say?" and whenever I pronounce it without the (extra) "le" then they understand me because I'm saying it just like they do. No one has ever explained this to my satisfaction. In fact, they usually fumble for any kind of answer while contemplating their navel. (Once upon a time, I wore yoo-dub purple like yourself. I could have asked at red square, but I didn't care/know about such things back then.) Ask your friend about the band... and stayed tuned to the mother of all beerathons! Thanks, Iefty. Ask your friend how to pronounce the name of the band “Sarmalele Reci” and he will never say “sarma-lay-lay” …but will always say “sarma-lay” even if it is supposed to be sarmalele.  I guarantee it.
This one bothered me for two years, because I would say “Sarmalele Reci” …only to get strange faces from the native Romanians asking me, “Who? What did you say?” and whenever I pronounce it without the (extra) “le” then they understand me because I’m saying it just like they do.

No one has ever explained this to my satisfaction. In fact, they usually fumble for any kind of answer while contemplating their navel. (Once upon a time, I wore yoo-dub purple like yourself. I could have asked at red square, but I didn’t care/know about such things back then.) Ask your friend about the band… and stayed tuned to the mother of all beerathons!

]]> By: Ieftin http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-639 Ieftin Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:27:12 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-639 I value your comments and insights highly, but I had to double check this one. I asked a Romanian friend: Is the following pronunciation statement really true: "Sarmalele is the articulated plural form of sarmale, yet they are pronounced the same way."? He responded: no! first, both sarmale and sarmalele are plural forms. indeed the only diference is that sarmalele is articulated with the enclitic definite article "-le". as the romanian language is phonetic, it is virtually imposible for two words that are spelled differently to be pronounced the same way. therefore sarmalele has a syllable more than sarmale. Cheers, and don't eat too many sarmale! I value your comments and insights highly, but I had to double check this one.

I asked a Romanian friend:
Is the following pronunciation statement really true: “Sarmalele is the
articulated plural form of sarmale, yet they are pronounced the same way.”?

He responded:
no! first, both sarmale and sarmalele are plural forms. indeed the only
diference is that sarmalele is articulated with the enclitic definite article
“-le”. as the romanian language is phonetic, it is virtually imposible for two
words that are spelled differently to be pronounced the same way. therefore sarmalele has a syllable more than sarmale.

Cheers, and don’t eat too many sarmale!

]]> By: Romerican http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-637 Romerican Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:29:24 +0000 http://romerican.com/2006/05/31/last-call/#comment-637 Heh. Let's not forget the beers from SC European Food SA! marketing@europeandrinks.ro Heh. Let’s not forget the beers from SC European Food SA! marketing@europeandrinks.ro

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